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  • November 20, 2022
    4:00 pm - 5:30 pm

Improv Narrative: Saying “yes, and” in narrative therapy and social work across the globe

with Elena Baskina (Moscow, New York & Miami) Masha Tiunova (Moscow) and Kitty Thatcher (Inverell, NSW,Australia/Santiago, Chile),

November 20, 2022: 4:00 – 5:30 pm NY time

The principles of improv theater (making your partner look and feel good, counting on chaos and uncertainty, showing up for the moment) seem to be relevant to the current collective moment where there is still a lot of uncertainty. We became curious whether improv wisdom ideas and practices can go hand in hand with narrative therapy, counseling contexts and community work. We decided to talk to narrative practitioners from all over the world about their experiences around improvisation. This Salon will showcase the highlights of those conversations, provide space for reflections and new practices to emerge and, hopefully, give us an opportunity to play some improv games relevant to our work contexts.

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Learning Objectives

The program supported me to:
1) Learn how practitioners across the world are blending narrative approach and improv theater ideas and practices
2) Learn improv techniques and how they apply to therapy and social work
3) Practice basic improvisational games with relevance to our work.


Maria  (Masha) Tiunova (Moscow, Russia) comes from a business perspective. Having spent over 15 years in advertising, doing strategic planning and people and culture work at Leo Burnett Creative Agency, she became fascinated by narrative ideas and started applying bits of them to her work. In 2016, she founded Communa Project meant to strengthen organisational communities through narrative practices. Masha does organisational and career counseling, and has a broader interest to working with communities in different contexts.

Elena Baskina (Moscow, Russia, New York & Moscow) is a co-founder and counseling psychologist at the Charity Foundation for Psychological support, «Будущее Сейчас». The Foundation embraces narrative practitioners committed to changing the way psychologists communicate and think of people who they are helping. The Foundation’s team implements and develops Narrative Practices in different context. Elena is teaching both the on-line and off-line courses on narrative therapy, An Introduction to Narrative Therapy, Principles and Skills for Collective Practices, Responding to Trauma. Her therapeutic practice involves working with women, who live with the effects of infertility, losing children and family members, traumatic experiences, anxiety and depression. Since 2010 Elena has run the support groups and developed collective narrative practices for various contexts.

Kitty Thatcher is an Australian who trained as a Clinical Psychologist in Systemic Therapy at the Universidad de Chile in Santiago, Chile where she was first introduced to narrative therapy ideas. Through a twist of fate, she went on to train in the fantastic narrative apprenticeship with Kay Ingamells, Tom Carlson and David Epston. She is also a fan of improvisation, having been warmly embraced by an improv community in Santiago called ‘Lospliemovil’. She found in improv a way of being and playing that saw ‘failures’ as simply opportunities to collectively think more creatively or cleverly about the next move. In this she thinks there are a lot of parallels with narrative therapy. She is excited about sharing what they learn with the wonderful Reauthoring Teaching community.


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