Co-Researching AI

Co-Researching AI: The promise and threat of AI-assisted Narrative Therapy

Online Workshop
with Navid Zamani, Ph.D., Larry Zucker, LISW, and Peggy Sax, Ph.D.

Sunday, September 14, 2025, 4:00 -7:00  pm EDT

  • How can the ethical postures and critical lens of NT be honored while maintaining a curious stance with AI?
  • What are the potential impacts on practice and pedagogy?
  • What are some illustrations of potential positive contributions?

Acknowledging its broader political context and privacy concerns, this workshop will explore AI’s potential benefits and limitations in therapy, supervision, writing, training, and teaching. How might we integrate technology, specifically ChatGPT, into our practice and pedagogy?  What are we learning at the beginning of this new age of living in a world where “human relations” include relations to AI? How might narrative ideas and practices contribute to the early stages of forming those relationships? What are our concerns about the accuracy of AI-generated notes, potential losses in privacy, and human interaction? In what ways might AI be useful in our work, and how do we safeguard our ethics along the way?

Together, we will hands-on explore AI’s potential in therapy, its implications for therapist training, and various applications in counseling, supervision, teaching, and writing. We welcome participants with diverse perspectives who wish to explore the uses and dangers in our work contexts. Please bring your curiosity, skepticism, and cautious openness to discoveries.

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3 Alliant CE credits

Learning Objectives

This program will enable participants to:

  1. Identify blind spots, biases, and theoretical approaches by running our transcripts through ChatGPT.
  2.  Write a formal letter to school administrators, leveling the playing field for non-native English speakers.
  3. Simulate a therapy session to understand the differences between various therapeutic approaches.
  4. Articulate the potential of AI assistance in note-taking and its implications

Introducing Our Presenters

Peggy Sax
Peggy Sax, PhD (Cornwall, Vermont), is the founder and Executive Director of Re-Authoring Teaching – this global learning community of narrative therapy practitioners, teachers, and enthusiasts. Having apprenticed herself to narrative therapy since the early 1990s, Peggy has worked for several decades in independent practice as a licensed psychologist/family therapist, consultant, teacher and international trainer. Previously, she worked in several innovative public sector programs including birth to three infant development, intensive home-based services, parent child centers, and community mental health. Peggy is the author of several articles and the book, Re-Authoring Teaching: Creating a Collaboratory. Whether online, on-the-road or within her beautiful home state of Vermont, it gives her great joy to bring together favorite people, ideas, and practices – to learn, engage, play, and replenish together.
Navid Zamani

Navid Zamani, PhD: “I’m an Iranian-American man who was born and raised in Southern California. I was raised in the Los Angeles and Orange County areas, until I moved to Davis, CA to continue my studies. After acquiring my BA in Psychology and minor in Music from UC Davis, I moved to San Diego to continue my studies at San Diego State University in Marriage and Family Therapy. I have resided in San Diego since 2010 and have fallen in love with the cultures, geography, food and music.

There are threads in my life that have been constant, and initiatives that have developed due to opportunities at the time and/or my location. Music has always been a big part of my life, and I continue to enjoy playing the piano/keys and the drum kit. I am an avid surfer, and enjoy outdoor activities with my wife, such as camping, hiking and biking around San Diego. Reading and writing have always been a pleasure of mine, and academia became a natural fit in this way. Gardening is also one of my obsessions and I also really love my dog. All of these hobbies are situated within a framework of experiences that come along with identifying as a heterosexual male, an Iranian-American and the experiences of biculturalism that accompany that, my ability to speak Farsi and English, my education, and the values I hold.

I grew up observing the charitableness of my family, and connected with the sense of urgency and gratitude that they experienced from helping others. I watched my mom always donate her time and money to the underprivileged and underserved. I watched my aunts (who are educators in Iran) advocate and stand up for students who often didn’t have a voice. I am continuously grounded by the love and compassion my wife models in her daily life. I truly believe that my community’s health impacts my health, and I am dedicated in supporting those in need.”

Larry Zucker
Larry Zucker is a Licensed Clinical Social Worker in Los Angeles, United States, where he has been practicing family therapy and training therapists for over 30 years. He offers occasional trainings through the Southern California Counseling Center and the Miracle Mile Community Practice (MMCP) and offers supervision through MMCP. He created an online couples therapy course offered through Re-authoring Teaching: Escaping Blame: Helping Couples Develop Account-ability. A chapter about his work with couples is in press in An Encyclopedia of Radical Helping, edited by Chris Hoff and to be published by Thick Press in the fall of 2024. A podcast interview about his couple work with Chris is listed below as well as a brief video presented at the Dulwich Centre’s Meet the Author series.