Co-Researching AI

Co-Researching AI: The promise and threat of AI-assisted Narrative Therapy

Online Workshop
with Navid Zamani, Ph.D., Larry Zucker, LISW, and Peggy Sax, Ph.D.

Sunday, September 14, 2025, 4:00 -7:00  pm EDT

  • How can the ethical postures and critical lens of NT be honored while maintaining a curious stance with AI?
  • What are the potential impacts on practice and pedagogy?
  • What are some positive contributions?

Acknowledging its broader political context and privacy concerns, this workshop will explore AI’s potential benefits and limitations in therapy, supervision, writing, training, and teaching. How might we integrate technology, specifically ChatGPT, into our practice and pedagogy?  What are we learning at the beginning of this new age of living in a world where “human relations” include relations to AI? How might narrative ideas and practices contribute to the early stages of forming those relationships? What are our concerns about the accuracy of AI-generated notes, potential losses in privacy, and human interaction?

Together, we will hands-on explore AI’s potential in therapy, its implications for therapist training, and various applications in counseling, supervision, teaching, and writing. We welcome participants with diverse perspectives who wish to explore the uses and dangers in our work contexts. Please bring your curiosity, skepticism, and cautious openness to discoveries.

Learning Objectives

This program will enable participants to:

  1. Identify blind spots, biases, and theoretical approaches by running our transcripts through ChatGPT.
  2.  Write a formal letter to school administrators, leveling the playing field for non-native English speakers.
  3. Simulate a therapy session to understand the differences between various therapeutic approaches.
  4. Articulate the potential of AI assistance in note-taking and its implications

Introducing Our Presenters

Peggy Sax
Peggy Sax, PhD (Cornwall, Vermont), is the founder and Executive Director of Re-Authoring Teaching – this global learning community of narrative therapy practitioners, teachers, and enthusiasts. Having apprenticed herself to narrative therapy since the early 1990s, Peggy has worked for several decades in independent practice as a licensed psychologist/family therapist, consultant, teacher and international trainer. Previously, she worked in several innovative public sector programs including birth to three infant development, intensive home-based services, parent child centers, and community mental health. Peggy is the author of several articles and the book, Re-Authoring Teaching: Creating a Collaboratory. Whether online, on-the-road or within her beautiful home state of Vermont, it gives her great joy to bring together favorite people, ideas, and practices – to learn, engage, play, and replenish together.
Navid Zamani

Navid Zamani, PhD is a licensed Marriage and Family Therapist who specializes in supporting Middle Eastern refugees dealing with domestic violence. As a Persian-American based in San Diego, CA, he integrates decolonial poststructural feminism within a narrative therapy framework. Navid is the Head of Family Therapy Services at License to Freedom, a nonprofit organization focused on helping Middle Eastern refugees impacted by domestic violence. His research and scholarship focuses on domestic violence epistemology and practice, the role of affect in narrative therapy, working with couples experiencing violence and high conflict, and linguistic justice for multilingual communities.

Larry Zucker
Larry Zucker is a Licensed Clinical Social Worker in Los Angeles, United States, where he has been practicing family therapy and training therapists for over 30 years. He offers occasional trainings through the Southern California Counseling Center and the Miracle Mile Community Practice (MMCP) and offers supervision through MMCP. He created an online couples therapy course offered through Re-authoring Teaching: Escaping Blame: Helping Couples Develop Account-ability. A chapter about his work with couples is in press in An Encyclopedia of Radical Helping, edited by Chris Hoff and to be published by Thick Press in the fall of 2024. A podcast interview about his couple work with Chris is listed below as well as a brief video presented at the Dulwich Centre’s Meet the Author series.